>> it used to be 67, now it's only 60. so it's the easiest right now. one of the differences is a number of years you had to go and talk. now they can have it without the long speeches. but that was quite a historic time. and mr. smith goes to washington, long phil busters. i'd be willing to talk, though. >> some of your republican colleagues have suggested that if republicans do gain control, that government shutdown may be in the offing. specifically for health care reform this is being talked about, the idea of putting restrictions on appropriations funding for hhs or the i.r.s. to implement this law. is it worth shutting down the government over anything in the next two years in a republican-controlled congress? specifically over health care reform given how much it's disliked by members of your party. is a government shutdown something you would support? >> what i would like to do is see us choking off some of this money that's supposed to go to the internal revenue service. they're asking for $10 billion to fund hiring up to 16,000 new i.r.s. agen